I totally empathize with this comment from MacroMan:
“Speaking of painful ordeals, health care is now a banned topic, except as it impacts financial market pricing. There is really no point having (or in my case, hosting) a debate in which a significant portion of the participants essentially stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes, and shout “the government are morons so there’s no point even trying to change anything!!!”
They are of course welcome to that opinion, and should they wish to express that view, they should feel free to visit the appropriate venue to vent. But after another day of being told “ooh, you Europeans just don’t understand anything” by people whose idea of exotic travel is a visit to Bob’s Country Bunker, I’ve had enough.
Off topic health care posts now incur the risk of deletion.”